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Evolution and Rene Meulensteen

Posted by JJ (Tony) in Other, Reflections and tagged with ,

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The writing was on the wall following that FA Cup victory. How much further could an ambitious young manager go at Wigan? Four years working on a shoestring budget, developing players keen to leave at the ends of their contracts. It was an uphill task for Roberto Martinez.

One thing is for sure – if Martinez goes to Everton we will see the Toffees playing better quality football next season. They will not be as dogged and hard to beat, but they will be more admired for their style. But there is an outside chance that Martinez will not leave Wigan. For the purposes of this article I am assuming he is going.

Despite being relegated, Wigan Athletic now have a reputation for playing good football. Martinez has built a club culture around his methods and philosophy. It has taken four years to produce and will serve the club for years to come, providing Dave Whelan can find the right man to continue build on this strong base.

Every manager has his own ideas on how his team should play, but the danger is that someone could come in with a diametrically opposed philosophy, ripping everything apart in the rebuilding process.

Latics need evolution rather than revolution. Swansea provide the prime example of how that can be done.

Roberto Martinez built up a culture of good football at the Welsh  club, taking them from League 1 to 8th  place in the Championship. Martinez was replaced by the Portuguese, Paolo Sousa, who imparted  a similar footballing style, even  if the ex-Juventus player was more defensively minded than his predecessor.

After a year Brendan Rodgers came in and built on what was already there, taking his team into the Premier League playing good football. When Rodgers went to Liverpool, Michael Laudrup brought in exciting talents such as Michu to boost the squad. The result was a mid table league finish and a League Cup final victory, achieved playing that same brand of skillful football.

So who is the man going to be who can continue the evolutionary process at the club?

The Oddschecker site shows Rene Meulensteen to be the favourite, followed by Graeme Jones, Owen Coyle, Gus Poyet and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

I must admit I had never heard of Rene Meulensteen since yesterday. It appears he is leaving his current position as first team coach at Manchester United and is keen to get back into management.  He is a 49 year old Dutchman  who spent 18 years managing teams  in Qatar. He went to Old Trafford as “skills development coach” in 2001, then moved up to reserve team coach, being first team coach since 2008. In between he had a brief spell at Brondby In Denmark in 2006-07.

Wigan Athletic have a huge commitment towards improving their youth system. Meulensteen is impeccably qualified to oversee the transition needed. His coaching skills cannot be doubted. However, there are going to be question marks as to his ability to manage a club desperate to get back into the Premier League.

Meulensteen is clearly a wild card and Dave Whelan could be taking a big gamble if he recruits the Dutchman

He could also represent  another exciting chapter in the continuing evolution of Wigan Athletic.

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Has Roberto really gone this time?

Posted by Ned in News, Reflections

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Just as the dust had settled on another unforgettable and emotional season of highs and lows, an official statement went up on the Wigan Athletic website confirming Roberto Martinez has been given permission to talk to another club, believed to be Everton.

While most sources have taken the statement — in conjunction with some Dave Whelan quotes elsewhere — to confirm beyond doubt that Martinez will definitely leave Wigan, the carefully worded statement actually suggests that he remains the club’s manager despite opening talks over a move.

In terms of what has actually been confirmed by either club, circumstances are pretty similar to those at this time last year, when Martinez carefully considered an offer from Liverpool before using the offer to negotiate greater investment in youth and training facilities back at Wigan.

Reports last Friday suggested that discussion during the first meeting between Whelan and Martinez had focused on the Spaniard’s continued demands for investment in said facilities — and probably in a larger squad to cope with Championship and Europa League football next season — rather than his desire to work elsewhere. Four days, ago, Whelan was confident his manager would stay.

It is therefore not unfeasible that Martinez could return from his talks with Everton, or Malaga for that matter, and push Whelan once again to give him the financial support he believes necessary for an immediate return to the Premier League and continued long-term strengthening. The fact that we have not heard a peep from Martinez himself, confirms that he has not yet left the club.

Realistically, however, it is hard to ignore how appealing the Everton job must look to Wigan’s former midfield maestro, on various levels. Though a much larger club that the Latics, Everton has been run in the same close-knit manner as Latics, by a chairman-and-manager combo built on trust and loyalty similar to that of Whelan and Martinez at Wigan. He would have more money, better players, some stability, and the attractive challenge of taking Everton to the next level following Dave Moyes’ departure. He could do a fantastic job there — particularly given the defensive strength that already exists there.

Then there are Dave Whelan’s comments, confirming that his manager has asked to leave, and most recently claiming he is tailor-made for Everton — a dramatic u-turn from his recent statements about Goodison not being a big enough club for him. They all seemingly point to a vacancy at the DW, but we’ve learned over the years how shrewd a businessman Whelan can be. It cannot be discounted that he is playing the media as he has been known to do. Martinez may, after all, not get the Everton job. If he then were to come back to Wigan, Whelan would be able to welcome him back without giving in to all the demands Martinez made of him.

Early rumours for the potential Wigan vacancy include Brighton manager Gus Poyet, who is also apparently a candidate at both Everton and Stoke, and Manchester United coach Rene Meulensteen. Both fit the continental, good-football mould, though the former has had issues with his chairman at Brighton over transfer funds, while the latter has very little managerial experience despite top pedigree as a coach. Plenty of other names have been and will be mentioned, but the issue is probably best left untouched for now — as Martinez has not yet, per the club, resigned.

What happened to Latics this season? An analysis.

Posted by JJ (Tony) in Other, Reflections and tagged with ,

Who is the hero and who is the villain of the season?

Managers come and go. Roberto Martinez has done a wonderful job against the odds. So did Steve Bruce and Paul Jewell before him.

The common thread is the backing they have had from Dave Whelan. The owner is a rarity in English football – a chairman who played in the top flight. We Wiganers can be direct and blunt times – Whelan is no exception. But then  again, some of the things he has said needed saying.

Dave Whelan is the hero. Despite relegation he is already saying that the aim he has left in  life is to get Wigan Athletic back in the Premier League. He is the inspiration behind the club.

The villain is pure bad luck. Wigan Athletic have played some terrific football this year, but have had no luck. The injuries they have had would have put any club under threat. They prevented Martinez putting out any kind of settled side all season. They say luck averages out, but it didn’t for Wigan this season.

The defining moment/turning point of the season

The home loss to Swansea was a devastating blow. Once again injuries forced Martinez to put in a stop-gap defence and it resulted in giving three goals away. It was sandwiched between a hard fought win at West Bromwich and the FA Cup Final.

Having to play at Arsenal three days after an FA Cup Final would be too much for most teams. That a stretched Wigan squad put up a great show for 60 minutes or so against a rested Arsenal team was remarkable, but the odds were loaded against them. The result put them out of the elite league.

Was the club’s potential fulfilled this term?

The season started with optimism, following a wonderful run at the end of the previous season. After all, when you can beat Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool in a short space of time, then you should surely be looking at more than survival in the coming season.

It was not to be. The season was punctuated with horrendous defensive errors, which so often gave Wigan defeat from the jaws of victory. The lack of mutual understanding in the forever-changing defensive line was certainly a factor, but some of the errors were fundamental and led the club to be relegated.

Managerial masterstroke/failing

Roberto Martinez continued to be positive throughout  a season in which the results were just not coming. That was his greatest strength –  enough to inspire his club into an FA Cup Final victory.

It is easy to criticise a manager whose club have been relegated. Critics will cite awful defending and a lack of penetration in attack. Too many passes that went sideways or backwards. Martinez fans – the majority – would admit that was the case, but would point to the classy football the team produced, even in the darkest moments. The quality of their football in the cup final matched that of Manchester City, a remarkable achievement that raised global awareness of a small club.

Goal of the season

The importance of Ben Watson’s last minute cup final winner dwarfs anything that preceded it.

My son and fellow writer, Ned Brown, described it in graphic detail:

“When you watch it again on television, it is hard to tell that Ben Watson’s FA Cup winning header actually happened in slow motion. But from my bright red Wembley seat about 15 yards away, I can assure you that the world stopped for a magical 10 seconds as the ball sat up, suspended in mid-air, spinning. Then the world moved forward again, in freeze-frame snapshots. Joe Hart’s acrobatic leap and disbelieving eyes. Arouna Koné’s realization.”

What needs to change?

Dave Whelan announced today that Roberto Martinez has been given  permission to discuss a vacant managerial position.  Strangely enough, winning the FA Cup might well have been influential in him making the decision. What more of note could he ever achieve at the club?

There will be a mass exodus of players. However, there is no need to panic. Martinez has put in infrastructure and the club has started to look long-term. The development of a  strong youth academy remains paramount to the club’s continuity in top level football.

Wigan Athletic have spent eight years in the Premier League, have reached the League Cup final, have won the FA Cup. They  are a club to be reckoned with.

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How Much Longer for Bob and Dave?

Posted by JJ (Tony) in Other, Reflections and tagged with , ,

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“I have one ambition left in my life and that is to get Wigan back in the Premier League.”

So said Dave Whelan just over a week ago.

It seems like the FA Cup win has put a new lease of life into the Wigan owner, 76 years old.  At times Latics supporters have pondered on Whelan’s ability to keep motivated, given all that he has achieved for the club and his advancing years.  How much longer can he keep it going?

Wigan Athletic without Dave Whelan does not bear thinking about at this moment in time. The good news is that he is committed for the short term at least.

Although Latics are going to lose around half of their current squad there will be enough quality players remaining to provide a strong backbone for a promotion push.

Funds gained by selling prize assets – such as James McCarthy, Arouna Kone and Callum McManaman – are likely to be ploughed back into the acquisition of new players. Young players who have been carefully nurtured – the likes of Fraser Fyvie, Roman Golobart, Lee Nicholls, Eduard Campabadal, Jordan Mustoe, Daniel Redmond, Nouha Dicko – are going to be pressing for first team action next season.

Despite relegation and the impending departure of so many players there remains a mood of optimism at the club. But then for a third consecutive summer there is uncertainty over the future of manager, Robert Martinez.

In most clubs the manager would lose his job for his team being relegated. Martinez has certainly had his critics during his four year stint as manager. However, the support he got at the victory celebrations on Monday showed how highly he is held in regard by so many fans. Not only did he keep Wigan above the relegation zone for three years on a budget that was “shoestring” in comparison with the competition, but he also built an infrastructure that will serve the club for years to come.

Who could blame Roberto Martinez if he decided to move on? Every manager needs a challenge and the Spaniard has certainly had lots of those already at Wigan. But now the parameters have changed. What would he have to realistically aim for if he were to continue?

Current media reports present a picture of the main focus of discussions between chairman and manager being on youth development and training facilities. Martinez rightly wants the chairman to commit to advancement in those key areas before deciding if he, in turn, will commit to the club for a further period of time.

Whether Martinez stays or goes, Latics have need more quality young players coming through the ranks. Even as a Premier League club, Wigan Athletic’s under 21 and under 18 teams have been playing in the second division of the Professional Development League  this year, with clubs from the Championship division. That the under 21 team reached a mid table position is no indictment on the coaching or management at that level. It is the lack of quality coming from  youth level that is the concern. Although it can be argued that results are not so important in younger age ranges,  it is no coincidence that the under 18 team has lost a lot more matches than it has won this season.

Roberto Martinez is right in his insistence on a good youth development programme. It has been wonderful to see Callum McManaman come through the ranks with such impact. Before him it was Leighton Baines. But if the club is to be sustainable in the upper leagues in years to come  it is going to need quality young players coming through teh system more frequently.

Lots of exciting work remains ahead for the formidable duo of Roberto Martinez and Dave Whelan. Next season begins with Wigan Athletic playing in the Community Shield at Wembley. Then the efforts will begin to put up a good show in the Europa League and to get promotion back to the Premier League.

We will find out early next week if Roberto Martinez is up for these new challenges. The vast majority of Wigan Athletic fans will be hoping that the Bob and Dave partnership will continue in the near future at least. They have done so much together, but there is still much more that needs to be done.

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Wigan’s First Blue Victory Parade

Posted by JJ (Tony) in Other, Reflections and tagged with ,

A wonderful article by the Guardian on Monday quoted Trevor Silcock, 63,  arriving at the FA Cup victory parade with three generations of his family. He recalled going to Springfield Park with his father and grandfather.

“This is the greatest day of my life,” he said, before adding: “After the kids being born, that is.”

Trevor has to be the same person who was in my class in primary school. I have not seen him since he was ten. I recognized his name and age straight away and envied him for being able to be there for those cup celebrations. I left Wigan and have worked in many places since then. Living in different countries has been part of my way of life, but my heart has always belonged to my home town.

When Trevor and I were at school the rugby club would sometimes parade the Challenge Cup through the town centre. I can remember seeing it, but try as I might, I never felt an affinity for them.

Being brought up in Warrington Lane in the south of Wigan, I was constantly surrounded by rugby fans. Sometimes our teachers would take us up to St Patrick’s field – a bastion of rugby league – to play games, including football. It might have been regarded as heresy by the management of that wonderful amateur rugby club which has provided so many top players to the professional game.

I wish I could have been in Wigan’s town centre when the Latics paraded the FA Cup. To coin an overused description it was “unbelievable”.

But why should it be any different than the local rugby league club’s celebration parades?

Let’s try to be fair. Wigan are the best supported team in the rugby league and have won the Challenge Cup 15 times in my lifetime. Their record is unparalleled in their sport.

But then again let’s get things into perspective. Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup by beating a Manchester City team that was put together by mega-money. It was David against Goliath. In terms of relative economic power the rugby team have been the Goliath compared with the teams they have beaten. Wigan’s rugby team attendances average around 16,000 compared with a division average of less than 10,000.

The town of Wigan can support two teams. The rugby support remains constant, but in the past there have been so many football fans who have traveled to Liverpool or Manchester to support the big clubs. Most of the younger generation of football fans now prefer to go to the DW Stadium. Despite a difficult season and relegation Wigan Athletic averaged over 19,000 this season.

Through their eight years in the Premier League and winning the FA Cup,  Latics now have a legacy that will keep them in good stead for years to come. Their success has helped dispel that old myth that Wigan is a rugby town.

Latics might not ever win the FA Cup again, but it will be remembered in Wigan for generations to come. I only wish I could have been there with Trevor to revel in the emotions of the celebrations.

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