Amigo and social media reaction to a narrow loss at Charlton

“We’re playing the twelve men at Old Trafford”.

In the Premier League days one rarely felt that Latics were going to get the balance of refereeing decisions going their way when playing the bigger clubs.

They certainly did not yesterday at The Valley.

John Sheridan had to reshuffle his pack for the game with left back Tom Pearce unavailable through injury. Gavin Massey was moved to right back, with Tom James moved across to the left. Darnell Johnson and Curtis Tilt formed yet another central defensive partnership. Will Keane was employed in a roving role behind Joe Garner. The seven substitutes on Wigan’s bench were graduates of the U23 squad.

I was a tight game ultimately decided by poor goalkeeping. The major refereeing decisions went to the home side, as noted by John Sheridan: “We are unfortunate to go away and get nothing from the game and it’s very disappointing.  We had two stonewall penalties and I will never know why he disallowed the Joe Garner goal; the linesman was 10 or 15 yards away from Will competing for the ball and he doesn’t give a foul but for some reason the referee – who is 40 yards away – gives a free-kick and disallows the goal.

The performance and the way the players went about getting something out of the game was a lot better. Again, we have lost the game and it’s disappointing because the goal is a direct free-kick and leading up to the goal we made ourselves vulnerable. The things we do, the decisions we make and we give too many little free-kicks away in dangerous areas, if you do that you get punished. It’s a shame we didn’t get something from the game because we deserved to.”

Sheridan did not use any of his bench, preferring to use the senior professionals at his disposal for the whole game. Despite the result it was a good performance with some bright spots. Gavin Massey had looked a shadow of his former self in the previous two games. He had a nervy start at right back, but grew into the game, looking more confident and assured. Curtis Tilt made an impressive debut despite not having played competitive football since March. It was good to see Lee Evans playing a more commanding role in the centre of midfield.  

Let’s take a look at how fans reacted to the match through the message boards and social media.

Our thanks go to the Vital Wigan – Latics Speyk Forum and Twitter for providing the media for the posts below to happen. Thanks go to all whose contributions are identified below.

The_Pon commented:

Absolutely shocking refereeing today. I’m not normally one to blame a ref. They do have a difficult job to do and I’m usually willing to let a few bad decisions go, especially when they’re are bad decisions that go both ways.

Today though, it was absolutely appalling. Every decision went the same way. Charlton players just hit the deck for free kicks whenever they like, whilst two very strong penalty claims turned down and a perfectly good goal disallowed for us. That’s not to mention the niggly trips and pulls that they got away with almost every time but the ref gave them pretty much every time.

Don’t mind cr.p referees that much when they’re cr.p for both sides, but obvious bias makes my blood boil.

SwindonLatic said:

Poor goal to concede. But we deserved at least a point. If we can get an end product out of Viv he can be as big for us at this level as Yanic was. Get the Palmer lad in, in place of Gardner and we could have the makings of a half decent team. Looked much more solid at the back. Liked the look of Tilt

Tilt was very good, head and shoulders our best player. Having Garner back certainly helped. Evans looked better than he has in recent games in def mid, but really started to look more like his old self after we went behind and it felt like he started to take more responsibility and dictating the play – that is what he is best at and hopefully with Palmer coming in he will be able to do more of it. Keane showed some nice flashes but he doesn’t really seem to be the Kieffer Moore type who can cope with the long balls and needs the ball more on the deck and players running off him. Otabor and Kal could really do some damage but they are so often taking on 3 players by themselves and crowded out – they need some help in the form of some runners and support to pull men away from them or give them options to slide someone in.

Felt that we aren’t really doing ourselves justice. We are not giving ourselves many options on the ball with a lack movement resulting in losing the ball by going long and we haven’t got a Moore to make it work. On the occasions we go up a gear start to up the tempo, show more urgency and commit men forward like we did towards the end we look a much better team. Not sure if the players are showing the opposition too much respect but if that the is the reason they really shouldn’t. Need to start games showing the urgency we show after we go behind.

Omar Bogle is still totally sh­.te – even at this level!

We’ve played about 5 of the likely teams in the promotion hunt this season and they’ve all been utter shte. We have been in turmoil with a team of cast offs yet if we could cut out costly errors to give away the points we could’ve probably won all 5. If we could get our takeover done and get our act together there is no reason we couldn’t fly up the league but we’ve got to do better ourselves.

 

TrueBeliever opined:

Quite an even game for me, Charlton looking to bed players in as were we. The goal was a mistake from Jones but overall he had a decent game and kept us in it when their forward turned Johnson in the first half.

Johnson and Tilt looked comfortable given it was the first game they had played together. Evans looked better running the show from deeper but Gardner is too loose on the ball and tries the flicks too often losing us possession.

Massey was half decent as a full back but still lacks confidence and pace going forward, maybe he is still trying to get his fitness back and will improve with game time. Solomon-Otabor drifts in and out but is dangerous in one on one situations when he gets the ball out of his feet.

I thought both Garner and Keane fought well against a couple of decent CB’s and won their fair share of the ball without actually creating much. No doubt if they get to play together more they will improve and form an understanding.

We should have been given at least one of the two penalty shouts as Evans had his standing foot whipped away as he was about to shoot. The one with Keane was more debateable but his set up for Garner was never a foul and the assistant ref, who had the better view, obviously thought so. Poor decision by the ref.

Overall a decent performance from yet another makeshift side still looking to find some consistency and getting to know each others games.

Onwards to Tuesday and the visit of Peterborough with at least an improvement on last week’s performance.

Stats courtesy of WhoScored.com

Derby Preview – a chance for a youthful strikeforce?

Will Keane could make his debut today against Derby County.  Thanks to the FA for photo.

Will Keane could make his debut today against Derby County.
Thanks to the FA for photo.


It has been a difficult week for Wigan Athletic and Owen Coyle. There has been a torrent of anger vented towards the manager following consecutive home defeats, with fans getting frustrated by a mediocre league position and a probable exit from Europe.

Coyle will be looking for an emphatic performance against Derby County this afternoon to halt the slide.

Derby stand just 3 points above Wigan in 8th place, Latics having a game in hand. A win for Latics is a distinct possibility providing they show the kind of movement and cohesion that was evident in the first half of the Zulte Waregem match on Thursday.

Derby will be no pushovers. They have an excellent away record of W5 D1 L2, winning at Watford and Bournemouth in their last two games on the road. The arrival of Steve McLaren in October has turned Derby’s season around. After the first 9 games they had only 11 points, but they have since picked up 14 points from the last 7.

It will be an opportunity for Latics supporters to watch the elegant 18 year old Derby playmaker, Will Hughes.  Hughes is likely to go to a big club in the January sales, giving McLaren the resources to bolster weaker areas of his squad.

Latics might well go into this match with a youthful front line. The 20 year old Will Keane has been signed on a short term loan from Manchester United and he could go straight in at centre forward with the excellent Nick Powell playing just behind him. Wingers Callum McManaman and James McClean were a real force in the first half on Thursday and offer a potent threat.

Ryan Shotton will almost certainly come back in. It remains to be seen whether Emmerson Boyce will be rested. If so he could be replaced by Shotton, but the possibility exists for James Perch to move to right back with Stephen Crainey retaining his place on the left.

Ben Watson is likely to return in central midfield to be partnered by one of James McArthur, Chris McCann or Roger Espinoza. Given Coyle’s previous preferences it will probably be the tall Irishman McCann who once again gets the call.

Although unlikely there is an outside chance that Ivan Ramis might make a surprise return following a ten month absence through injury. Having someone who can pass the ball out of defence would make a big difference for the midfield, given the tendency of the centre backs to launch hopeful long balls or to pass the buck with a ball back to the ‘keeper.

It promises to be an interesting encounter. A win for Wigan will push them back into contention. They are only 5 points away from the play-off zone with a match in hand.

Hopefully they can shake off the disappointments of the past week and play with spirit and determination.

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Callum for England

Manchester City v Wigan Athletic - FA Cup Final

It has been a difficult season so  far for Callum McManaman, recovering from injury and dealing with illness.

Although there have been signs in recent matches that he is getting back to form he just has not been the exciting player we saw cut Manchester City’s defence apart in May.

His season has needed a ‘kick start’ and now it has come.

The Daily Star quotes Roy Hodgson saying that  he has been following McManaman’s progress and he has a chance of going to the World Cup  finals in Brazil.

McManaman has already played for England at under-20 level. A step up to the full national team is a distinct possibility if he can get back to form. England just don’t have another wide player with his qualities.

This is good news for Owen Coyle and his Wigan Athletic squad that is progressing in Europe and steadily moving up the Championship table.

According to the media it looks like young Manchester United striker Will Keane will be joining Latics on loan. Keane is 20 years old,  6’2” tall and is part of the England under-21 squad with Nick Powell.

Keane has now recovered from an anterior cruciate ligament injury that kept him out of action all of  last season. The injury took place in May 2012 when he was playing for the England under-19 team against Switzerland. His twin brother, Michael, who is a defender, is also at Old Trafford.

The season is looking bright for Wigan Athletic.

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